Thanks for sharing your expertise on sleep, the topic of our cover story. Thomas Edison called sleep “an absurdity” and “a bad habit.” Is that idea ingrained in our culture?
I think it’s deeply ingrained, but we’re at a moment of transformation. What stops people from prioritizing sleep is the fear that somehow they’re going to miss out. We have so many phrases that confirm that—“You snooze, you lose,” “I’ll sleep when I’m dead.” But now there are role models, people who are prioritizing sleep and are supereffective.
You’re known as hard-charging. Did you have a moment when you said, I’ve got to change what I’m doing?
Yes, in 2007 when I collapsed from sleep deprivation, exhaustion, and burnout. Being a divorced mother of two teenage daughters, I had bought…
